I love the kinam note. Just like using those old charts outlining the traits of different kinds of agarwood is effectively useless today sasora is sour while kyara is bitter or smells like an aristocrat in its elegance and gracefulness. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Press J to jump to the feed. It is fair to say, at this point, thatKyarais a subject we need to agree to disagree about. WebOne thing you do learn from ancient descriptions of kyara is the simplicity: kinam is bitter or smells like a monk. Vanilla may often be used as a synonym for "bland," but this scent is anything but when it comes to our happiness levels. Great balanceto it. Here, another question arises: At what stage of the resination process is akyaratree, akyaratree? But then there are select few true legends. Kinam is hard to find if you dont know where. I want to smell like butterflies. But if you insist on Vietnamese kinam being the only kinam out there, youll still be left in awe at how these Brunei, Borneo, and Chinese palettes smell so out of this world compared to regular varieties from the same regions. than the Ryugen, which I will go into below, so I consider it like an Aloeswood Extreme. If whatever-piece-of-wood fulfills certain scent characteristics, it gets the label. If the Holy Grail is to capture the scent of gently heated agarwood, why not just gently heat the agarwood? They found the oud was an olfactory extension of the numbness in their mouth. But remember this: If you were still stuck in that mantra of Oud = Cambodi/Hindi only, youd never have enjoyed the depths of Papuan green or Bruneis blue. Thats what I find so fascinating about discussions about kinam: the uncertainty. More of an experience rather than just a great scent.Rasoul / Canada, I went for Kyara in the evening to accompany a long walk. Papuan is just different spelling for Guallam.. Kyara will vary by grade, region, locality inside that region. The olfactory antidote to the stresses of living in a time of great disharmony and uncertainty around the world, Kyara is very probably the most beautiful fragrance I have ever smelled. This oil is not a scent but a portal. Just like using those old charts outlining the traits of different kinds of agarwood is effectively useless today sasora is sour while kyara is bitteror smells like an aristocrat in its elegance and gracefulness. that it constitutes the apex of that oud family. That is the best I can do to describe how it feels. Agarwood was imported into Japan from China via Korea. So .5 ml can go a looooong way.Rasoul / USA, None to this date has been as clear, as loud, as evident and as glorious as Kyara when it comes to capturing the scent of kinam and kinamic wood on higher heat. Diehard skeptics who criticize the Chinese school and insist that its a marketing trick miss one crucial point: Its MUCH easier to find Vietnamese kinam than Chinese kinam. Of course I am leaving it for an even much lower price. Kyararemains a mystery to this day even for the most seasoned collectors of vintagekyarachips. But if a medical student has not yet graduated, he is not a doctor. Alhamdulillah, I have had the good fortune to sample some of the best ouds from the far corners of the earth, and, clearly, Kyara is not from this world.Faisal / USA, This AM the day got started with a gentle and small application of Kyara. I like wild Kyara and all, but sometimes I just don't want to spend five hundred dollars just to get a few splinters of the "real" stuff. Am so glad I waited, and that Kyara was waiting for me, and I am simply astonished.Jennifer / USA, While top notes were enthralling, I will never forget the first moment I experienced the mid notes and dry down. Walk into a Baieido showroom in Japan in person and theyll only let you buy 1 gram of kyara, even if youre a known collector. In my opinion, until somebody distil an oil from actual Kyara wood than you can actually know what is that smell you can compare it. This oil is powerful, bitter, medicinal. There are only a handful of ouds on the planet in the same class as this one. That youre reading this means youre into a niche within a niche within a niche. Most amazingly, it doesnt smell like resin at all! The distinctive element of Middle Eastern perfumery is oud, or agarwood, a precious resin with an opulent aroma of tobacco, leather and honey. The Japanese hold that kinam only originates in Vietnam, Hainan and parts of Cambodia while the Chinese have identified kinam in various other agarwood-growing regions. Sun moon and stars have lined up for me and this oil tonight. Go to Hong Kong, Tokyo or Taipei to meet a kinam collector and smell what he calls kinam. It's scientific name is Aquilara Malaccensis Lam. Ants smell the chemicals that make up odors with olfactory receptors on their antennae. Others believe that one mans kinam is simply anothers sinensis. They are worth every single penny. Welcome to r/incense, a community dedicated to the discussion of incense of all kinds. If we look at the cherry tree simile, it would seem to indicate that akyaratree could qualify as akyaratree no matter whether it contained anykyaraor even any degree of infection: A cherry tree doesnt need to bear fruit in order to be classified as a cherry tree. I dunno, night floral sense (it's not perfume, but it brings to mind, lotus blossoms, black, velvety petals). Its like not being able to tell the difference between goat yogurt or cows, or the difference between Thai oud and Maroke. Is there a note or set of notes you look for? Its scent. This is a high kyara content incense stick with minimal other ingredients smell alike. Edited by Scents of Earth. I thought that this is what it was supposed to smell like, but when I put my face I totally agree with you in regards to Nha Trang being a full-profile oil. I was fairly new to incense and my wife was patient but basically disinterested at that stage. From this evolution in kinam appreciation came two schools of thought: the Japanese and the Chinese. Its tough to beat a place called Pleasantville. The magazine picked Los Angeles as the top smelling city while Paris ranked the worst. Special gift of nature handled very well by man to coax all the beauty and genius out. If theothertheory is true, andKyarais indeed the fruit of a unique combination of events which may take place in any type of Aquilaria or Gyrinops tree, then my original question still remains unanswered. 1 out of every 24,320 baby girls born in 2020 are named Kyara. If whatever-piece-of-wood fulfills certain scent characteristics, it gets the label. WebArsenic as such does not have garlic odor and foods high in arsenic, such as rice, chicken, fish, beer and wine do not smell like garlic. As an example, Qi Nam Khmer did not smell likekyara, but it was the rarest Cambodian profile I have experienced to date. Her candle, made in collaboration with Rewined, features notes of orange, grapefruit, pink peppercorn, neroli, and orange blossom. Compared to other ouds Ive tried, the beauty of Kyara lies in its less is more philosophy. Bacterial vaginosis While everyone is unsure about its origin and how exactly it gets produced, theres no mystery about what kyara smells like. The scent is beautifully distinct and exquisitely rare; the golden tip at the top of the oud pyramid, regardless of the country its found in. How does the grading work? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Last comment: this is by far the most incensey oil I have come across. However it remains to this day the most sought-after oud oil that has ever been released. The scent that makes you fork over your life savings to make one just one Oud. It's like an oud oil that is sweetish, otherworldly floral-fruity, with a shimmering twang that's not camphoric. It resembled the most unearthly fragrance I had ever smelled in my life The scent is NOT that of kinam/kyara on low heat, but instead high heat smoke. Its not marketing. Also have some White Kinam from Ensar on the kyara heater. Words cannot describe these two oils. During our 2017 KinamFest, we did a blind test. I said, why does any other vendor bother to stay in business when you have oils like these? This is commonly called agar #2. But thenext comparison takes a different view: Anyagarwood tree, whether of the Aquilaria or Gyrinops genus, be it Aquilaria Crassna or Agallocha or Malaccensis or Sinensis, or Gyrinops Decipiens, Caudata, Walla, etchas the potential to produceKyara. All he says is: That is Kinam.. Something else to consider is that like some other preservatives, it can break down to create aldehydes when combined with other chemicals, and one of those aldehydes can be formaldehyde, which is a known carcinogen. It was my own conviction, and it pertained to me only. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Wanna know the first thing I said to Ensar when I smelled Kyara? Hot -- Resembles the smell of peppers on a fire. This is an incredibly potent oud! It has been brought up time and again that using the term Kyarain naming oud oils is misleading and inappropriate. I wonder if I will try them and think, "yeah, that's great, but not that much better than other high quality agarwood", OR will their scents blow my mind? For any oudhead, this is a delicious festival to look forward to, drinking in the meticulousness of oudheads that went before. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. In fact as I mentioned, this plantation Kinam is amazing in its own way considering the short inoculation period and the generated scent profile. Ranjatai has been now been identified as coming from Laos or Vietnam by Japan's leading expert on Aloeswood, Dr. Yoneda from Osaka University. WebCertainly the Kyara is the bigger and deeper scent, with a rich dark woody quality in addition to the ethereal camphoric and green qualities a lot going on, and all of it so enjoyable Salty -- Resemble the smell of ocean water when seaweed is dried on a fire. The Japanese incense houses and Chinese agarwood collectors monopolize kinam because they sought out and bought out all of it over the years, long before others caught on thats why soil kyara is a big thing now, because with no living kyara trees standing, the only place youre likely to find kyara today is underground. it must mean people are making stuff up. Maybe even more interesting in a certain way than the Nha Trang, because of Kyaras jungle memories. Some believe kinam is purely a marketing gimmick. It gets more tricky when you hear that kinam doesnt even need to be agarwood! We gave our guests a Japanese kyara pellet to chew on. Now if they are totally unrsponsive to inquiries post sale, say after 72 hours without any reply, that's when I'd say it's a bit unnerving -. They spent 20 percent more time with the cancerous samples. Thats why kyara discussions often read like philosophy lectures, and why it makes for a great marketing hook to cash in on the confusion. So goood. 1 gr Vietnam Kinam1 gr Brunei Kinam1 gr Borneo Kinam1 gr China Kinam. It induces a state of trance. But if you insist on Vietnamese kinam being the only kinam out there, youll still be left in awe at how these Brunei, Borneo, and Chinese palettes smell SO out of this world compared to regular varieties from the same regions. 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